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		<title>By: Jennifer (Conversion Diary)</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7432</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer (Conversion Diary)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a beautiful post. The state of marriage in our society is so sad. Before we became Christians my husband practiced divorce law, and he really saw just how much our society is decaying. His clients would often be surprised when he&#039;d counsel them not to get divorced. 

Anyway, I once heard of a Christian culture in some part of the world where the couple kisses a crucifix as part of their vows to signify that they are married to the cross first -- i.e., they are going into this prepared to carry their crosses, to serve others and not themselves. Evidently divorce is almost unheard of in their culture. Not surprising.

Your blog is always delightful to read. Thanks for another good post!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jennifer (Conversion Diary)’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/06/whats-your-elevator-pitch.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What&#039;s your elevator pitch?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautiful post. The state of marriage in our society is so sad. Before we became Christians my husband practiced divorce law, and he really saw just how much our society is decaying. His clients would often be surprised when he&#8217;d counsel them not to get divorced. </p>
<p>Anyway, I once heard of a Christian culture in some part of the world where the couple kisses a crucifix as part of their vows to signify that they are married to the cross first &#8212; i.e., they are going into this prepared to carry their crosses, to serve others and not themselves. Evidently divorce is almost unheard of in their culture. Not surprising.</p>
<p>Your blog is always delightful to read. Thanks for another good post!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jennifer (Conversion Diary)’s last blog post..<a href="http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/06/whats-your-elevator-pitch.html">What&#8217;s your elevator pitch?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Jenn4him</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7345</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn4him</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are spot on.  Recently, friends of ours announced their divorce.  It shakes you to the core when you hear they are just giving up, even in the face of church discipline.  Divorce is easier in their minds.  I mourn for their kids most of all.  My parents divorced when I was 12.  I know their pain.  
Jenn

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jenn4him’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/jenn4him/692680/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Things I hope to do this summer, a random list.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are spot on.  Recently, friends of ours announced their divorce.  It shakes you to the core when you hear they are just giving up, even in the face of church discipline.  Divorce is easier in their minds.  I mourn for their kids most of all.  My parents divorced when I was 12.  I know their pain.<br />
Jenn</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jenn4him’s last blog post..<a href="http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/jenn4him/692680/">Things I hope to do this summer, a random list.</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Momma Bug</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7248</link>
		<dc:creator>Momma Bug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 05:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Momma Archer,
I agree with your words and with your heart.  It&#039;s a heart-wrending thing to watch people who call themselves followers of Christ be so selfish.  Selfishness manifests itself in many ways though, doesn&#039;t it.

What I appreciated tonight was your mention that sin SHOULD carry shame.
There is another issue (from that of divorce)which my husband I are working through with beloved family of mine, and it&#039;s a hard thing to watch - them feeling shamed by our decisions concerning interaction with them (as we believe the Word of God instructs).
That very shame is what can turn us from our sin though and cause us to come running back to the Lord!  It&#039;s painful, but it can be a good thing.  What hard thing did the Lord God NOT do to bring about repentance in the Israelites time after time after time...
His heart is for repentance and restoration, and for HIS glory.  Not on making sure we feel good and are comfortable (especially in a lifestyle of sin).

Your words were an encouragement to me once again, and a confirmation that I can continue to be content in the Lord&#039;s truth, and my husbands wise and careful leading.

Bless you and yours,
Analene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Momma Archer,<br />
I agree with your words and with your heart.  It&#8217;s a heart-wrending thing to watch people who call themselves followers of Christ be so selfish.  Selfishness manifests itself in many ways though, doesn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>What I appreciated tonight was your mention that sin SHOULD carry shame.<br />
There is another issue (from that of divorce)which my husband I are working through with beloved family of mine, and it&#8217;s a hard thing to watch &#8211; them feeling shamed by our decisions concerning interaction with them (as we believe the Word of God instructs).<br />
That very shame is what can turn us from our sin though and cause us to come running back to the Lord!  It&#8217;s painful, but it can be a good thing.  What hard thing did the Lord God NOT do to bring about repentance in the Israelites time after time after time&#8230;<br />
His heart is for repentance and restoration, and for HIS glory.  Not on making sure we feel good and are comfortable (especially in a lifestyle of sin).</p>
<p>Your words were an encouragement to me once again, and a confirmation that I can continue to be content in the Lord&#8217;s truth, and my husbands wise and careful leading.</p>
<p>Bless you and yours,<br />
Analene</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7232</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 17:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does break your heart when you see christian friends&#039; marriages fall apart.  We have seen a few friends&#039; marriages end in divorce over the last year.  Some of them due to affairs and wives who refuse to take on the Biblical role of being a wife.  I too feel SO blessed to have the husband that I have.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ali’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://missionfielddesigns.com/mygodgivenmissionfield/?p=247&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yarn!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does break your heart when you see christian friends&#8217; marriages fall apart.  We have seen a few friends&#8217; marriages end in divorce over the last year.  Some of them due to affairs and wives who refuse to take on the Biblical role of being a wife.  I too feel SO blessed to have the husband that I have.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ali’s last blog post..<a href="http://missionfielddesigns.com/mygodgivenmissionfield/?p=247">Yarn!</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7224</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who divorced a minister, I can tell you that there was nothing more shameful in my entire life. And everyone at church decided to make sure I knew I should be ashamed, effectively kicking me when I was down. When someone is getting a divorce, the thing to focus on is not whether or not they feel guilty. Trust me, they do, even if they don&#039;t broadcast their guilt all over the place. Divorce is devastating. The thing to focus on is showing them mercy and compassion, knowing that you never know what might happen to put you in their shoes. 

I, too, felt somewhat superior to those who divorced. I stayed with my husband through a miserable marriage. Then one day, it all just fell apart past the point of being able to put it back together. Though it is for some people, it wasn&#039;t about happiness for me. I had been unhappy for years, and I didn&#039;t think I could ever be happy again. But did I get a chance to explain it to my Christian friends and church family? Nope! Either they said nothing or launched so quickly into &quot;mentoring&quot; that it cut me off completely. I had never been so broken, but people were more interested in parenting/judging me than helping me. I haven&#039;t been back to that particular church since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who divorced a minister, I can tell you that there was nothing more shameful in my entire life. And everyone at church decided to make sure I knew I should be ashamed, effectively kicking me when I was down. When someone is getting a divorce, the thing to focus on is not whether or not they feel guilty. Trust me, they do, even if they don&#8217;t broadcast their guilt all over the place. Divorce is devastating. The thing to focus on is showing them mercy and compassion, knowing that you never know what might happen to put you in their shoes. </p>
<p>I, too, felt somewhat superior to those who divorced. I stayed with my husband through a miserable marriage. Then one day, it all just fell apart past the point of being able to put it back together. Though it is for some people, it wasn&#8217;t about happiness for me. I had been unhappy for years, and I didn&#8217;t think I could ever be happy again. But did I get a chance to explain it to my Christian friends and church family? Nope! Either they said nothing or launched so quickly into &#8220;mentoring&#8221; that it cut me off completely. I had never been so broken, but people were more interested in parenting/judging me than helping me. I haven&#8217;t been back to that particular church since.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7217</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lord I lift Mama Archer&#039;s friends who are going through a divorce. I pray Lord that you would come to this couple and visit them in visions and dreams. Put a love back in their hearts for one another, replace bitterness with forgiveness and tears for joys. Bring HEALING LORD, Bring HEALING LORD. WE CRY OUT BRING HEALING LORD! In the name of HE is able to do such a thing... Jesus Christ!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Emma’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://strongquiver.blogspot.com/2009/05/great-craft-sites.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Great Craft Sites&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord I lift Mama Archer&#8217;s friends who are going through a divorce. I pray Lord that you would come to this couple and visit them in visions and dreams. Put a love back in their hearts for one another, replace bitterness with forgiveness and tears for joys. Bring HEALING LORD, Bring HEALING LORD. WE CRY OUT BRING HEALING LORD! In the name of HE is able to do such a thing&#8230; Jesus Christ!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Emma’s last blog post..<a href="http://strongquiver.blogspot.com/2009/05/great-craft-sites.html">Great Craft Sites</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7191</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 01:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wr too have seen close friends who were raising their children in the church, and homeschooling recently divorce, and walk away from their faith altogether.  It&#039;s heartbreaking, and it makes you realize that it can happen to anyone if you are not purposeful in protecting your marriagae and your family.  Satan walks the Earth like a lion, seeking whom he may destroy!  I pray it will not be my family!  Thank you for sharing your heart with us.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elizabeth’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://busymama7.blogspot.com/2009/05/watching.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Watching....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wr too have seen close friends who were raising their children in the church, and homeschooling recently divorce, and walk away from their faith altogether.  It&#8217;s heartbreaking, and it makes you realize that it can happen to anyone if you are not purposeful in protecting your marriagae and your family.  Satan walks the Earth like a lion, seeking whom he may destroy!  I pray it will not be my family!  Thank you for sharing your heart with us.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Elizabeth’s last blog post..<a href="http://busymama7.blogspot.com/2009/05/watching.html">Watching&#8230;.</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7150</link>
		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 00:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m beginning to wonder if this is one of the most obvious signs of spiritual decay in the church?  Hubby and I have been brokenhearted of late as couple after couple after couple within our circle of acquaintances have divorced.  It&#039;s an epidemic.  Some of our dearest friends...  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m beginning to wonder if this is one of the most obvious signs of spiritual decay in the church?  Hubby and I have been brokenhearted of late as couple after couple after couple within our circle of acquaintances have divorced.  It&#8217;s an epidemic.  Some of our dearest friends&#8230;  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
		<link>http://mamaarcher.com/2009/05/27/holding-back-tears/comment-page-1/#comment-7144</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 21:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bless you Christine for your tender heart...
So often people are being told they need to be &quot;happy&quot;. Wedding vows and children are no longer reasons to repent before God and one another. We have recently had a sad family seperation. They are not christians but much loved and very close family. I too spent many teary days over it.
You have a beautiful tender heart and desire to see things through, God&#039;s way. You are leading by great example!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Ruby’s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://mummasplace.blogspot.com/2009/05/paying-it-forward.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paying it Forward...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bless you Christine for your tender heart&#8230;<br />
So often people are being told they need to be &#8220;happy&#8221;. Wedding vows and children are no longer reasons to repent before God and one another. We have recently had a sad family seperation. They are not christians but much loved and very close family. I too spent many teary days over it.<br />
You have a beautiful tender heart and desire to see things through, God&#8217;s way. You are leading by great example!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Ruby’s last blog post..<a href="http://mummasplace.blogspot.com/2009/05/paying-it-forward.html">Paying it Forward&#8230;</a></em></abbr></p>
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