Juice or Wine?
Ok, I am cheating today and posting something that I did not write. Here is an article from a newsletter that I receive and I wanted to share it with you. It should be discussion inducing; just keep it nice please. If you are interested in signing up for this newsletter just click on the graphic.
Jesus, the Scriptures tells us, served “the fruit of the vine” (Matthew 26:29, Mark 14:25) and ‘the cup” (Luke 22:20). We could break down the common usage of these expressions in this time, flipping pages in our word study books until we are blue in the face. Others have done so. The evidence is overwhelmingly one sided. I’d commend to your reading by Ken Gentry, published by Oakdown Press. Or we could start from the other direction and ask this question, “What do we want it to mean?” That is, are people on my side of this issue eager to take flimsy evidence to conclude that it was wine as some sort of justification for our sin, or, are the people on the other side eager to take flimsy evidence to conclude that it was grape juice, or unfermented wine, in order to hold on to the notion that the moderate consumption of alcohol is at best unwise and at worst a sin. That is to say, the question really isn’t about the Last Supper (nor, for that matter is it about the wedding feast at Cana, or the wine Paul encourages Timothy to take, nor the wine and strong drink we are encouraged to buy with our tithes in Deuteronomy 14:26.) The real question is this, is it permissible for the Christian to consume alcohol in moderation?
Whenever there is a close call in terms of understanding the Bible, when men of good will and obvious Christian faith disagree, one of my convictions is that it is always wise to look to the wisdom of the church over the ages. Has the church spoken to issue x, and has it given a consistent answer? On this issue we have to begin by noting that while there is in our day some level of disagreement, that this isn’t at all what one would consider to be a close issue. Until 150 years ago, virtually no one in the church ever took the position that drinking alcohol in moderation is a sin. No one. There are no ancient exegetical studies of these accounts of Jesus and wine breaking down the words because no one bothered to do so. Everyone knew it was wine. The question simply wasn’t asked, because there was no reason to ask it.Remember the RC Sproul Jr. principle of hermeneutics- whenever you see someone doing something really stupid in the Bible, do not say to yourself, “How can they be so stupid?” Instead say to yourself, “How am I more stupid?” The same thing applies to church history. When we look at all the foolish distortions of the faith brought into Roman Catholicism when she added tradition as a second source of revelation, we ought to be on guard for our own ways of doing so. The only difference is that our traditions are younger, and thankfully, we can get rid of them. “Consuming alcohol is a sin” is a tradition, a foolish, albeit well-meaning one, in the modern evangelical church. Like the doctrine of purgatory, it has no Biblical support. Like Roman Catholics and their traditions, evangelicals cling desperately to this tradition, against all Biblical evidence.To reject this tradition isn’t, as those who created it will tell us, to start down the road to worldliness. It isn’t to creep toward a life of self-destruction. It is instead to humbly submit to the plain teaching of Scripture. That same Scripture has strong words about abusing strong drink. It likewise has strong words about adding to the law of God. May He give us the grace to submit to Him, and to drink the cup, the fruit of the vine, confessing our sin, rather than trying to be more pious than He.
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January 13th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Interesting article. I think it falls into the category of personal conviction (far fewer things fall into this category then the church would like but anyway). I have no problem with the idea that REAL wine was served in Biblical times.
My parents always took the no alcohol stance as did their denomination. My sister is a recovering alcoholic/drug addict. My brother still drinks but had to get some help because he is a mean drunk (crushed his hand after hitting a wall). So family history of depression/bipolar + dysfunction + alcohol = bad idea.
I find it easier to just not go there since it appears my family can’t handle their liquor. I’m not sure I want to find out if I can or not. I don’t think it’s a sin, but I do think it can cause major problems in those who are susceptible.
Because of this, I am more than okay with churches substituting grape juice for wine in communion. I think we err when we make The Lord’s Supper more about the wine/juice then about our Saviour.
January 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am
The church I go to has several recovering alcoholics so I have no problem with the grape juice we use. However, I know that this is a recent argument among the church. Before we knew how to make our water safe to drink, it was safer to drink beer and wine. This area is an area for personal conviction. It is clearly not okay to get drunk however as the Bible clearly says not to. If someone stuggles with it, then they shouldn’t drink at all.
I hope these thoughts are coherent. I am so sleep deprived right now.
January 13th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Makes perfect sense and I agree.
We’d all die of shock if the church stopped squabbling over stuff like this. (wink)
BTW, I’m so jealous of your Alaska move. I’m a country gal who has been stuck in SoCal for 12 years.
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January 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Thanks Momma!
We don’t drink wine in the home, bc my 9 year old has a real conviction against alcohol. It’s her own personal conviction and I choose not to stumble her. I love to use wine in cooking and do so often. My DD knows the alcohol cooks out quickly. I do not indulge in my small town either as I am a Director of a Mission treating drug and alcohol abuse, yet I know I have the freedom to drink of the vine when I’m not going to stumble a weaker brother/sister…. emma
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